it's not even the moderator, and we saw that with mitt romney, too, chris, when he made his now-infamous remark about the bet he wanted to have with governor perry. again, watch. >> i'm just saying, you were for individual mandates, my friend. >> you know what? you've raised that before, rick, and you're -- >> it was true then. >> no, no. [laughter] >> it's true now. >> rick, i'll tell you what -- [laughter] $10,000? [applause] $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business, but -- >> oh, okay. >> and folks thought that made him look out of touch. everybody knows mitt romney's a rich guy, but they can be their own worst enemies. >> absolutely. debates aren't going to be super consequential barring one of two things; a massive gaffe or a total out of the park line. those are the only two things that are going to make the debate worthwhile, especially with these two guys who are both cautious campaigners and like to filibuster their way through answers with lots of word salad they throw out there. mitt romney has to be worried about getting overeager or getting, again, flustered, making a